TheBurningKitchen.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com. by ezhiskaz » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:11 am, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. It is a good fish to use if you want to deep fry fish slices because it does not flake easily. Without further ado, here is a comprehensive list of fish names for every swimmer in your tank. You need to beat the crowd to avoid disappointment. Amazon, the Amazon logo, AmazonSupply, and the AmazonSupply logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. It is a fantastic pairing with other flavourful ingredients through a myriad of cooking methods. by SimL » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:13 pm, Post There are two types of Ngor Her: the economical version (known simply as Ngor Her) has a black and white pattern on its skin; and the premium version (known as. Texture The meat is tender and texture is smooth. the animal names are pronounced by Hokkien speakers in Singapore, where differences in accents have resulted in curious combinations of pronunciations inconsistent for many words. In fact, Aik Yuen is known to serve one of the best hokkien mee in KL. Hokkien is spoken mainly in Taiwan and Fujian province on the southeast coast of China. And finally, we will also tell you the general cooking method for each fish. Chinese Name: 非洲鱼 (Fēizhōu yú), 尼罗罗非鱼 (Níluó luófēiyú) Local Malay Name: Ikan Tilapia, Mudjair Local Hokkien: Hui Chiu Common Name: Freshwater Angelfish Scientific Name: Pterophyllum scalare (Schultze, 1823) Chinese Name: 大神仙鱼 (Dà shénxiān yú), 艾氏神仙鱼 (Ài shì shénxiān yú) Common Name: Red Discus Penang Hokkien is a subdialect of Zhangzhou (漳州; Hokkien: Tsiang-tsiu) Chinese, together with widespread use of Malay and English loan words. Crimson Snapper is well known in culinary circles for its fine and firm texture. She has been known to sometimes (READ: often) use The Burning Kitchen as an excuse to get Bee Leng to cook dishes she is craving! Claim to fame: Most expensive whole steamed fish served at restaurants. Although I cant find the one I was looking for… appreciate what you have done. Instead we will focus on ‘local knowledge’: like why these fish have a ‘claim to fame’ in our local cuisine, and the colloquial names for these fish, which can be confusing because some of the fish has many names that may or may not suit their description! Forums dedicated to Chinese languages and dialects, Post A fan favourite for all families and is highly sought after in wet markets. Now it’s your turn. I am not a fish expert, I am just a regular next door guy but been fortunate to live in 4 countries for total 18 yrs where only fresh water fishes are majority and also live in Singapore for nearly 20 yrs where sea water fishes are majority. What do you think? Ketchup. Apart from curry, you can also use this fish for Fish Head Steamboat (鱼头炉 Yu Tou Lu). Popiah (Pe̍h-ōe-jī: po̍h-piáⁿ) is a Fujianese/Teochew-style fresh spring roll. Thank you Eva! Lotus Root Sweet Soup With Figs and Honey Dates ». In fact, some of the best food in Penang is actually, Penang street food. Really love to learn them. Hokkien (/ ˈ h ɒ k i ɛ n /; Chinese: 福建話; pinyin: Fújiànhuà, Pe̍h-ōe-jī: Hok-kiàn-ōe, [hoʔ˦kiɛn˨˩ue˧]) or Minnan (閩南語/闽南语), known as Quanzhang or Tsuan-Tsiang (泉漳) in linguistics, is a Southern Min language originating from the Minnan region in the south-eastern part of Fujian Province in Southeastern China and spoken widely there. Hi! Indeed a must-have guide to know more about the common local fish that we eat! Suprisingly, the Hokkien street names have little relation to the colonial names, but is related to the historical background of the exact location instead. If you are buying Threadfin for your baby’s first food, let the fishmonger know and they will remove the bones for you. Would anyone care to list the Hokkien names for: Peacock Bass, Green Chromide, Mayan Cichlid, Jaguar Guapote, Eartheater, Freshwater Dorado? JOHANNA MAYER: Sound familiar? The fresh fish is good. Although most of the more recent streets are known by their official names, those in George Town are still known by their names in Hokkien. Note: The list is not in any order of importance. As it is categorized as white fish and not oily, the meat is considered to be white, mild and slightly moist. Also known as: Spanish Mackerel (English), 马鲛鱼 Ma Jiao Yu (Mandarin), Ma Kau Yu … I am trying to do the best I can to introduce different types of seafood n different types of sauces commonly found in Asian kitchen. Whether it's a betta, a clownfish, or a guppy, you'll be sure to find a unique, funny, cute, or plain fish name for your scaled, aquatic friend in this list. Name Hanji Meaning Pronunciation Bān: 萬 ten thousand ban: Bēng: 孟 first, eminent beng: Bo̍h: 莫 by niuc » Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:41 pm, Post The place where Hokkien is most prevalent is the humble kopitiam, where the elderly chatter fluently in the dialect. In addition, Tua Ban has a longer tail, shorter head and a more rounded body than Batang. Also known as: Yellowstripe Scad or Yellow-Banded Scad (English), 君令Jun Ling (Chinese). Maybe we will even succeed in persuading you to venture out to your nearest wet market to test out your newfound knowledge, who knows? Famous Penang food like laksa, kuay teow and cendol, have long put Penang on the world map. From Braised Laksa Hokkien Mee to Angus Meatball Spaghetti, take your pick from our array of bento options and bundles, and enjoy them in the comfort . by SimL » Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:03 am, Post Often packaged and sold in refrigerated packages in ethnic food shops and health food stores, these noodles are favorite options for inclusion in stir fried dishes as well as in several varieties of soups and entrees seasoned with mixtures of meats, fish, and vegetables. S$28.00. Interviews with local fishmongers 2. BATANG. The darker coloured fish is usually wild-caught, while the lighter coloured fish is usually farmed. Our mission is simple: to make authentic Chinese cooking accessible to all, anytime, anywhere. Discussions on the Hokkien (Minnan) language. You can easily identify by its red body with distinctive bluish gray spots on its body (these spots are a distinguishing characteristic of the Grouper family in general) and tail which is concave and curved in shape, rather than a pointed ‘V’ shape. Hokkien noodles are round egg noodles that are usually of medium thickness. Usually only one or two stalls in each wet market sells solely toman fish and it is usually pre-cut into different section. GET RECIPE FOR SLICED FISH MEE SUA (LONGEVITY NOODLES), Also known as: 红鸡 Hóng jī (Mandarin), Ang Kuey (Hokkien), Ikan Merah (Malay). Chanced upon your site while researching on the type of fish to use for papaya fish soup! We’ll be most interested to hear your views. Hi Jean, thank you for your kind comment! Last updated on August 30, 2019 By Melissa | The Undercover Chef 12 Comments. Red grouper is often a dish served especially during festive seasons such as Chinese Lunar New Year, Longevity Birthdays 大寿 celebrations and Weddings. The Hokkien name for this fish is not known. Hi Allen! On the other hand, the skin is very tough, so people don’t usually eat it. Located just behind the famous Tawakal Hospital, thus the name “Tawakal Hokkien Mee” given by locals. It is used to make hu7-kuann1 or kiam7-hu5. But you are right, even for frozen fish you do also need to check the freshness. Claim to Fame: In case you are not aware, Ikan Kuning is the fish that goes into that tasty packet of Nasi Lemak. Black Pomfret (黑鲳 Hēi Chāng, Orh Cheor) – see photo below. Claim to Fame: The quintessential fish for Teochew-style steamed fish, and especially so during Chinese New Year where strong demand can cause prices to skyrocket to $100 per kg from the usual $20-$30 per kg. Don’t confuse it with its larger cousin – Ikan Selar (One-Finlet Scad,  Yellowtail Scad, 色拉鱼 (Chinese), Sek Lah (Cantonese and Hokkien)(see photo below). Blooooop! For some reason it is called Ang Zho even through its actually golden, not red, hence the source of confusion! Ikan Kuning is around half the size smaller or more than the Ikan Selar; The tail of Ikan Kuning is grey while that of Ikan Selar is yellow; Ikan Selar has a easily identifiable long dark strip of hard scales extending from the tail to 1/3 of body but Ikan Kuning does not. I noticed that all the listed fish above except Toman (Snakehead) are saltwater fish and I got curious. One live red grouper can easily costs about $60-$80 depending on the size. Do you agree with us that these are THE 10 most common local fish? Clean and rinse the fish head. Easy identifiable by its golden-coloured opaque eye that looks like a cataract, hence the Chinese name 金目鲈 Jin Mu Lu ‘Golden-Eyed’ Bass. Scientific Name: Eleutheronema rhadinum (Jordan & Evermann, 1902) English Name: East Asian Fourfinger Threadfin Mandarin Name | 鱼类中文名: 四指马鲅 (Sì zhǐ mǎ bà), 四指马友 (Sì zhǐ mǎ yǒu), 午鱼 (Wǔ yú), 午仔 (Wǔ zǐ) Local Malay Name: Ikan Senangin, Senangin Rambu Empat Local Hokkien: Ngor Hu, Pek Ngor, Ngor-ah Main Identification Features: 4 pectoral filaments. It has a thick sauce poured and mixed over fried rice with egg. The meat of the Yellowtail Fusilier is very sweet, so apart from using it to make fishballs, you can also pan-fry the whole fish. The bones are usually snapped up very early in the morning. Here are some slightly better pics of the climbing perch / ikan puyu. Take care not to confuse this fish with its more ‘economical’ cousins: Golden Pomfret (金鲳 Jīn chāng, Kim Cheor) – fins and tail are golden colour, Silver Pomfret (银鲳 Yin chāng,  Gun Cheor) – body is silver-ish white, not pewter-coloured. IKAN SELAR (TOP) vs. IKAN KUNING (BOTTOM). Fish sauce. by ong » Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:03 am, Post In this page, you will learn many things about food, including how to describe them and where you can eat them! Popiah is often eaten in the Fujian province of China (usually in Xiamen) and its neighbouring Chaoshan (and by the Teochew and Hoklo diaspora in various regions throughout Southeast … So theory goes the word started in Hokkien, and from there, the sauce and the word traveled. It took a while to take the photographs and put everything together, but here is it, our list of the top 10 most common local fishes that every self-proclaimed and self-respecting foodie must know. Filed Under: Ingredient Guides, Popular Tagged With: Fish. Thank you for your question and sorry this reply came so later. It is better to have it steamed so you can really taste the freshness and the sweetness of the fish and you can feel the bouncy texture of the meat that flakes nicely. Read more! Chinese Name: 午鱼 Hokkien Name: Ngoh Hee Teochews: Ngou Herh. 1. Thks so much for the wonderful guide, found it super useful and informative ???????????????????????? Batang belongs to the Mackerel family of fish, which also includes Mackerel which is smaller and cheaper, and Tua Pan which is the most premium fish within the mackerel family in our local wet markets. I find it helpful to learn the different names of the fishes. Browse the menu, view popular items and track your order. Here we focus Red Grouper, one of the most popular fish within the Grouper family among the Chinese, because of its auspicious red colour. Hokkien doesn't use the Roman alphabet, so English speakers just kind of guessed at how to spell it. If you’re looking to try local dishes like Penang Hokkien mee, curry mee or oyster omelet, there are a lot of places that serve these! Using charcoal as fuel as well, their hokkien mee is stir fried to dark, golden brown. I can't help regarding your outstanding questions as I don't have the answers. When buying Batang, make sure that the flesh is slightly pinkish, not whitish in colour. You can easily identify it by its distinctive and prominent lateral  yellow strip running along the back from the head to its tail. You still need to check if is really fresh by observing the tell tale signs. The meat of the Emperor Red Snapper is more hardy than that of the Crimson Snapper – this makes it ideal for curry dishes as the meat won’t disintegrate during cooking. Claim to fame: Batang is the typical fish steak used for pan-frying, and for making sliced fish soup and sliced fish porridge. Melissa is the technie half of the dynamic mother-and-daughter duo behind The Burning Kitchen. I really appreciate it. Note: Although I refer to these as “Taiwanese” names, I give the Mandarin forms (since Hanyu Pinyin is a system for writing Mandarin), not names in Hoklo/Hokkien (the language often referred to … Rarely people have compound … To make this easy and fun to read, there won’t be any technical jargon, scientific names and that sort of thing which you can easily find elsewhere and others have already done a very good job with it. It has small eyes, very thin scales and greyish tail. We will also tell you the key things to look out for, so you can easily identify each fish when you see it. It is rather tasteless, and the meat is soft and powdery ("hu7-hu1") but can be cooked with soy sauce, red-chillie, sugar and salt, much like ikan terubuk. Freshwater fish is not as tasty and sweet as saltwater fish, and sometimes has a muddy taste. Picking a name for your pet fish can be a lot of fun but it can also be really tricky (especially if you have a tank full of similar looking fish)! Also, we left out Parang Fish, which used to be very popular for Yu Sheng and Raw Fish Porridge, but has now diminished drastically in popularity since the GBS infection outbreak scares in recent years. So far our saltwater fish is imported from our neighbouring countries Malaysia and Indonesia. Also known as: 红斑 Hong Ban (Mandarin), Ang Kao (Hokkien), Hong Sek Ban (Cantonese). Thank you very much for showing us how to choose fish and the recipe. Actually many fish in your list I have heard of too, not merely three, but our pronunciations may differ slightly. Ikan Kuning is also known as ‘the poor man’s fish’, I guess because of its affordability especially for large families. This soup helps to stimulate production of breast milk. The Most Popular Boy and Girl Fish Names. Basic name structureMost Chinese names have 3 elements - surname, first name, second name. So it’s a norm… Read more ». Some names only have 2 elements - surname, first name. Sorry, I missed your comment. She loves writing about her cooking learning journey as she photographs, films and documents the craft of making delicious and authentic local dishes. by SimL » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:31 am, Post Claim to fame: Commonly used in Fried Fish Slice Bee Hoon Soup (炸鱼片米粉汤), another local hawker delight. Choose Pomfret  with a shimmery body, bright looking eyes and that is firm to touch especially the belly part. ACK will take live prawns and fresh squid readily and this fish always gives a good account of itself when hooked. It’s obvious that they’ve mastered the trade too as we heard the queues can go up to over an hour long! Sources: 1. Claim to fame: Popular table sized fish used for steamboat or Cantonese-styled steamed fish for home cooking. W get fairly good frozen fish. From a simple pushcart business back in the days to becoming a full-fledged hawker stall, they’ve come a really long way. One of the big names in ABC Brickworks Market & Food Centre is undisputably Tiong Bahru Yi Sheng Fried Hokkien Mee. @Allen, I think you are right about why 9 out of 10 fishes listed here are seawater because SG is an island country and so are the neighboring countries where seawater fishes are easily accessible. Hope this answers your question! After several requests from our readers, we have finally got round to creating our very own ‘Every Foodie’s MUST-HAVE Guide to 10 Common Local Fishes’! 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Compared to the pinkish colour of the Crimson Snapper, the Emperor Red Snapper is a vibrant salmon pink colour and is much larger than the Crimson Snapper. ), Also known as: Spanish Mackerel (English), 马鲛鱼 Ma Jiao Yu (Mandarin), Ma Kau Yu (Cantonese), Ikan Tenggiri (Malay). More often than not, deep fried fish are frozen and it is not as fresh, that’s why you need to add the sauce to mask its lack of freshness. It is said that it most closely resembles that spoken in the district of Haicang (海滄) in Longhai (龍海; Hokkien: Liông-hái) county and in the districts of Jiaomei (角美) and Xinglin (杏林) in neighbouring Xiamen prefecture. These are allmonosyllabic andrepresented by one hanzi character each. Selected price checks at wet markets and supermarkets. Do not confuse Crimson Snapper with Emperor Red Snapper (see item 4). You’ve got your Nemos and your Dorys but we’ve got 198 other names to give you some fishy inspiration! The name ‘Kuning’ means yellow, and is commonly used in the market and well understood by all fishmongers. Sim, thanks a lot for the detailed postings about fish. Or is it freshwater fish are much expensive than saltwater fish? GET RECIPE FOR THE PERFECT CANTONESE-STYLE STEAMED FISH HERE, Also known as: Red Emperor or Lion Head Red Snapper (English), 红狮 Hong Shi (Mandarin), Ang Sai (Hokkien), Ikan Merah Coreng or Merah Boring (Malay). Perfecting the Technique for Preparing Chinese Restaurant Steamed Whole Fish, Begedil / Perkedel (Fried Potato Patty with Fish). Claim to fame: Well known for its use in making fish balls, because it gives the fish balls a nice bouncy texture. 2. Being born a Hokkien would probably make you assume that I am very proficient in Hokkien. On this page, is listed the names of the streets in Penang in Penang Hokkien, using Taiji Romanisation. Leave us comments to tell us which local fishes you think should be part of the top 10 list! You can easily identify Yellowtail Fusilier by its unique combination of yellow (tail), blue (middle section) and an obviously pink (belly) hues. Yes we are very blessed in Singapore to have a ready supply of fresh fish and seafood. I love eating fish but never know what type of fish I was eating. Unlike other types of fish, you usually don’t get to see the whole fish. Many are no stranger to this coffee shop. We are Bee Leng & Melissa, the mother-daughter team behind The Burning Kitchen. Usually you won’t see the whole fish at the market because people either buy the head or the tail section, and not the whole fish. by SimL » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:44 pm, Post 3. Pat dry with paper towels. Or catsup. The Emperor Red Snapper also has a distinctive arch in the head that makes it easily distinguishable from the Crimson Snapper. As Penang is a place famous for its unique hokkien language, many of the streets have Hokkien names to it. Hi Diana, thank you for liking our blog. My Paper: http://news.asiaone.com/news/singapore/silver-pomfret-costs-fortune-over-cny 3. Possible to add most of the fish sold in supermarket? EMPEROR RED SNAPPER (ANG SAI) – WHOLE FISH, Also known as: Barramundi or Giant Sea Perch (English), 金目鲈 Jin Mu Lu (Chinese), Kim Bak Lor (Hokkien), Ikan Siakap (Malay). … Therefore it is less popular that saltwater fish. If your Hokkien is limited to the expletives, then here are some simple words and phrases that you can use daily. Recently it's busier at work, so I'll comment more next time. So there you have it, the 10 most common local fish that every self-proclaimed and self-respecting foodie must know! Also do not confuse Crimson Snapper with Golden Snapper (Ang Zho in Hokkien, 红皂 (Hóng zào), 红潮 (Hóng cháo), which is another popular table-sized fish for steaming that tastes similar to the Crimson Snapper. For pan-frying, and from there, the skin is very tough so! 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